Fire Canyon Skip - Revision history

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2025-07-06T02:09:07Z

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	===FCS v1.0===		===FCS v1.0===

	The first version of Fire Canyon Skip took an approach similar to [[Lava Tube Skip]] v2.0, making use of an [[Idle Deload \| idle deload]] and [[checkpoint bypass]]. The skip would start with Jak waiting 30 seconds to perform his idle animation while in Fire Canyon. This would change Jak's stored level to Fire Canyon. Once Fire Canyon has been stored, Jak climbs over the left canyon wall to get out of bounds and maneuvers back to the Sandover Village checkpoint. Once Sandover Village becomes Jak's active level, a precise [[Extended Uppercut \| extended uppercut]] is used to perform a checkpoint bypass, allowing Jak to enter Fire Canyon while Sandover Village is still the active level (Sandover Village music will play while in Fire Canyon). After the bypass, Jak needs to perform an insane amount of blind ledge grabs and make his way deep enough into the canyon so that he is closer to the end of Fire Canyon than he is to the start. Once an idle deload is performed, the game will change Jak's stored level to his active level (Fire Canyon music will begin to play) and will set his checkpoint to the nearest one. In this case, the nearest checkpoint is at the end of Fire Canyon. Jak then dies and respawns at the end of Fire Canyon.		The first version of Fire Canyon Skip took an approach similar to [[Lava Tube Skip]] v2.0, making use of an [[Idle Deload \| idle deload]] and [[Checkpoint Bypass\|checkpoint bypass]]. The skip would start with Jak waiting 30 seconds to perform his idle animation while in Fire Canyon. This would change Jak's stored level to Fire Canyon. Once Fire Canyon has been stored, Jak climbs over the left canyon wall to get out of bounds and maneuvers back to the Sandover Village checkpoint. Once Sandover Village becomes Jak's active level, a precise [[Extended Uppercut \| extended uppercut]] is used to perform a checkpoint bypass, allowing Jak to enter Fire Canyon while Sandover Village is still the active level (Sandover Village music will play while in Fire Canyon). After the bypass, Jak needs to perform an insane amount of blind ledge grabs and make his way deep enough into the canyon so that he is closer to the end of Fire Canyon than he is to the start. Once an idle deload is performed, the game will change Jak's stored level to his active level (Fire Canyon music will begin to play) and will set his checkpoint to the nearest one. In this case, the nearest checkpoint is at the end of Fire Canyon. Jak then dies and respawns at the end of Fire Canyon.

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Ruh: /* FCS v1.0 */

2025-01-07T16:51:49Z

FCS v1.0

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	===FCS v1.0===		===FCS v1.0===

	The first version of Fire Canyon Skip took an approach similar to [[Lava Tube Skip]] v2.0, making use of an [[idle deload]] and [[checkpoint bypass]]. The skip would start with Jak waiting 30 seconds to perform his idle animation while in Fire Canyon. This would change Jak's stored level to Fire Canyon. Once Fire Canyon has been stored, Jak climbs over the left canyon wall to get out of bounds and maneuvers back to the Sandover Village checkpoint. Once Sandover Village becomes Jak's active level, a precise [[extended uppercut]] is used to perform a checkpoint bypass, allowing Jak to enter Fire Canyon while Sandover Village is still the active level (Sandover Village music will play while in Fire Canyon). After the bypass, Jak needs to perform an insane amount of blind ledge grabs and make his way deep enough into the canyon so that he is closer to the end of Fire Canyon than he is to the start. Once an idle deload is performed, the game will change Jak's stored level to his active level (Fire Canyon music will begin to play) and will set his checkpoint to the nearest one. In this case, the nearest checkpoint is at the end of Fire Canyon. Jak then dies and respawns at the end of Fire Canyon.		The first version of Fire Canyon Skip took an approach similar to [[Lava Tube Skip]] v2.0, making use of an [[Idle Deload \| idle deload]] and [[checkpoint bypass]]. The skip would start with Jak waiting 30 seconds to perform his idle animation while in Fire Canyon. This would change Jak's stored level to Fire Canyon. Once Fire Canyon has been stored, Jak climbs over the left canyon wall to get out of bounds and maneuvers back to the Sandover Village checkpoint. Once Sandover Village becomes Jak's active level, a precise [[Extended Uppercut \| extended uppercut]] is used to perform a checkpoint bypass, allowing Jak to enter Fire Canyon while Sandover Village is still the active level (Sandover Village music will play while in Fire Canyon). After the bypass, Jak needs to perform an insane amount of blind ledge grabs and make his way deep enough into the canyon so that he is closer to the end of Fire Canyon than he is to the start. Once an idle deload is performed, the game will change Jak's stored level to his active level (Fire Canyon music will begin to play) and will set his checkpoint to the nearest one. In this case, the nearest checkpoint is at the end of Fire Canyon. Jak then dies and respawns at the end of Fire Canyon.

	==FAQ==		==FAQ==

Ruh at 00:55, 30 July 2024

2024-07-30T00:55:32Z

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	[[File:Fire Canyon Skip.gif\|thumb\|Infinite bounces being performed during Fire Canyon Skip]]		[[File:Fire Canyon Skip.gif\|thumb\|Infinite bounces being performed during Fire Canyon Skip]]
	'''Fire Canyon Skip''', or '''FCS''' for short, is a skip in [[Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy]] that bypasses the 20 power cell requirement needed to enter the second hub area (Rock Village). There is a safeguard in place that bounces Jak back to his last known grounded position if he tries stepping on the fiery canyon terrain. By using [[ground cancel jumps]], Jak is able to approach the canyon terrain without the game updating his grounded position. By Jak never having his grounded position updated, the game never enables the safeguard. Jak is then able to jump onto the canyon surface and initiate an [[infinite ~~bounce~~]]. Although damage is dealt during the infinite bouncing, Jak's death sequence will not initiate unless he is in a grounded state.		'''Fire Canyon Skip''', or '''FCS''' for short, is a skip in [[Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy]] that bypasses the 20 power cell requirement needed to enter the second hub area (Rock Village). There is a safeguard in place that bounces Jak back to his last known grounded position if he tries stepping on the fiery canyon terrain. By using [[Ground Cancel Jump\|ground cancel jumps]], Jak is able to approach the canyon terrain without the game updating his grounded position. By Jak never having his grounded position updated, the game never enables the safeguard. Jak is then able to jump onto the canyon surface and initiate an [[Infinite Bounce\|infinite jump]]. Although damage is dealt during the infinite bouncing, Jak's death sequence will not initiate unless he is in a grounded state.

	During the course of the infinite bounce, the game is trying to find a grounded surface to bounce Jak to. If Jak gets too close to any object or surface that he is able to stand on, the game will take over and magnetize Jak's bounces towards that surface. There are four areas that regularly trigger this magnetization effect and are commonly called "the four horsemen" in reference to the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.		During the course of the infinite bounce, the game is trying to find a grounded surface to bounce Jak to. If Jak gets too close to any object or surface that he is able to stand on, the game will take over and magnetize Jak's bounces towards that surface. There are four areas that regularly trigger this magnetization effect and are commonly called "the four horsemen" in reference to the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

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2024-02-19T06:15:12Z

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	Kuitar showed that you could use ground cancel jumps (3-frame jumps) to start infinite bouncing from the start of Fire Canyon, and then Bobby put together the rest of Fire Canyon Skip v2.5.		Kuitar showed that you could use ground cancel jumps (3-frame jumps) to start infinite bouncing from the start of Fire Canyon, and then Bobby put together the rest of Fire Canyon Skip v2.5.

	Several runners would later contribute with setups and strategies for making the skip RTA viable, especially LouiGi who also became the first runner to complete the skip RTA, followed by the first runner to get a WR with the skip (22m51s), achieved while members of the community watched on live from AGDQ 2019."		Several runners would later contribute with setups and strategies for making the skip RTA viable, especially LouiGi who also became the first runner to complete the skip RTA, followed by the first runner to get a WR with the skip (22m51s), achieved while [https://youtu.be/8NjdrDNQJ0g?si=KcOJnB6tuuJGCCtZ members of the community watched live from AGDQ 2019].


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	Kuitar put forward the idea of using Idle Deload for Fire Canyon Skip, and then Bobby put together the rest of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_udU2V6yeU Fire Canyon Skip v1], making use of an out of bounds at the start of the level found by headstrong.		Kuitar put forward the idea of using Idle Deload for Fire Canyon Skip, and then Bobby put together the rest of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_udU2V6yeU Fire Canyon Skip v1], making use of an out of bounds at the start of the level found by headstrong.

	ImRubic discovered ""zoom deloads"" (Idle Deload with a zoom), and used it to enter Fire Canyon from Sentinel Beach and start infinite bouncing, something not previously possible with regular deloads. Bobby then put together the rest of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjUv1-4HLLI Fire Canyon Skip v2].		ImRubic discovered "zoom deloads" (Idle Deload with a zoom), and used it to enter Fire Canyon from Sentinel Beach and start infinite bouncing, something not previously possible with regular deloads. Bobby then put together the rest of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjUv1-4HLLI Fire Canyon Skip v2].

	Kuitar showed that you could use ground cancel jumps (3-frame jumps) to start infinite bouncing from the start of Fire Canyon, and then Bobby put together the rest of Fire Canyon Skip v2.5.		Kuitar showed that you could use ground cancel jumps (3-frame jumps) to start infinite bouncing from the start of Fire Canyon, and then Bobby put together the rest of Fire Canyon Skip v2.5.

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2024-02-15T03:05:57Z

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	Several runners would later contribute with setups and strategies for making the skip RTA viable, especially LouiGi who also became the first runner to complete the skip RTA, followed by the first runner to get a WR with the skip (22m51s), achieved while members of the community watched on live from AGDQ 2019."		Several runners would later contribute with setups and strategies for making the skip RTA viable, especially LouiGi who also became the first runner to complete the skip RTA, followed by the first runner to get a WR with the skip (22m51s), achieved while members of the community watched on live from AGDQ 2019."


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2024-02-15T03:05:48Z

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	== Other Notes ==		== Other Notes ==
	[[File:Fire Canyon Skip v2 ImRubic Discord Reaction.PNG\|thumb\|Discord reactions to ImRubic streaming the discovery of zoom deload. Bobbykaze ~~later~~ then uploads a video of zoom deload being used to perform FCS v2.]]		[[File:Fire Canyon Skip v2 ImRubic Discord Reaction.PNG\|thumb\|Discord reactions to ImRubic streaming the discovery of zoom deload. Bobbykaze then uploads a video of zoom deload being used to perform FCS v2.]]
	Piggleberry first found the [https://www.twitch.tv/videos/43702248 infinite bouncing] in Fire Canyon, but starting from the end of the level. At the time this was not useful. (June 22, 2015)		Piggleberry first found the [https://www.twitch.tv/videos/43702248 infinite bouncing] in Fire Canyon, but starting from the end of the level. At the time this was not useful. (June 22, 2015)

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	== Other Notes ==		== Other Notes ==
	[[File:Fire Canyon Skip v2 ImRubic Discord Reaction.PNG\|thumb\|Discord reactions to ImRubic streaming the discovery of zoom deload.]]		[[File:Fire Canyon Skip v2 ImRubic Discord Reaction.PNG\|thumb\|Discord reactions to ImRubic streaming the discovery of zoom deload. Bobbykaze later then uploads a video of zoom deload being used to perform FCS v2.]]
	Piggleberry first found the [https://www.twitch.tv/videos/43702248 infinite bouncing] in Fire Canyon, but starting from the end of the level. At the time this was not useful. (June 22, 2015)		Piggleberry first found the [https://www.twitch.tv/videos/43702248 infinite bouncing] in Fire Canyon, but starting from the end of the level. At the time this was not useful. (June 22, 2015)

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2024-02-15T03:04:26Z

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	== Other Notes ==		== Other Notes ==
			[[File:Fire Canyon Skip v2 ImRubic Discord Reaction.PNG\|thumb\|Discord reactions to ImRubic streaming the discovery of zoom deload.]]
	Piggleberry first found the [https://www.twitch.tv/videos/43702248 infinite bouncing] in Fire Canyon, but starting from the end of the level. At the time this was not useful. (June 22, 2015)		Piggleberry first found the [https://www.twitch.tv/videos/43702248 infinite bouncing] in Fire Canyon, but starting from the end of the level. At the time this was not useful. (June 22, 2015)

	Kuitar put forward the idea of using Idle Deload for Fire Canyon Skip, and then Bobby put together the rest of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_udU2V6yeU Fire Canyon Skip v1], making use of an out of bounds at the start of the level found by headstrong.		Kuitar put forward the idea of using Idle Deload for Fire Canyon Skip, and then Bobby put together the rest of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_udU2V6yeU Fire Canyon Skip v1], making use of an out of bounds at the start of the level found by headstrong.
	~~[[File:Fire Canyon Skip v2 ImRubic Discord Reaction.PNG\|thumb\|Discord reactions to ImRubic streaming the discovery of zoom deload.]]~~
	ImRubic discovered ""zoom deloads"" (Idle Deload with a zoom), and used it to enter Fire Canyon from Sentinel Beach and start infinite bouncing, something not previously possible with regular deloads. Bobby then put together the rest of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjUv1-4HLLI Fire Canyon Skip v2].		ImRubic discovered ""zoom deloads"" (Idle Deload with a zoom), and used it to enter Fire Canyon from Sentinel Beach and start infinite bouncing, something not previously possible with regular deloads. Bobby then put together the rest of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjUv1-4HLLI Fire Canyon Skip v2].

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2024-02-15T03:04:12Z

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	Kuitar put forward the idea of using Idle Deload for Fire Canyon Skip, and then Bobby put together the rest of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_udU2V6yeU Fire Canyon Skip v1], making use of an out of bounds at the start of the level found by headstrong.		Kuitar put forward the idea of using Idle Deload for Fire Canyon Skip, and then Bobby put together the rest of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_udU2V6yeU Fire Canyon Skip v1], making use of an out of bounds at the start of the level found by headstrong.
			[[File:Fire Canyon Skip v2 ImRubic Discord Reaction.PNG\|thumb\|Discord reactions to ImRubic streaming the discovery of zoom deload.]]
	ImRubic discovered ""zoom deloads"" (Idle Deload with a zoom), and used it to enter Fire Canyon from Sentinel Beach and start infinite bouncing, something not previously possible with regular deloads. Bobby then put together the rest of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjUv1-4HLLI Fire Canyon Skip v2].		ImRubic discovered ""zoom deloads"" (Idle Deload with a zoom), and used it to enter Fire Canyon from Sentinel Beach and start infinite bouncing, something not previously possible with regular deloads. Bobby then put together the rest of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjUv1-4HLLI Fire Canyon Skip v2].